Excerpt From President Hinckley's Talk At Priesthood Session


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October General Conference 1998

"Now, brethren, I want to make it very clear that I am not prophesying, that I am not predicting years of famine in the future.  But I am suggesting that the time has come to get our houses in order.

So many of our people are living on the very edge of their incomes.  In fact, some are living on borrowings.

We have witnessed in recent weeks wide and fearsome swings in the markets of the world. The economy is a fragile thing.  A stumble in the economy in Jakarta or Moscow can immediately affect the entire world.  It can eventually reach down to each of us as individuals. There is a portent of  stormy weather ahead to which we had better give heed.

I hope with all my heart that we shall never slip into a depression.  I am a child of the Great Depression of the thirties.  I finished the university in 1932, when unemployment in this area exceeded 33 percent.

My father was then president of the largest stake in the Church in this valley.  It was before our present welfare program was established.  He walked the floor worrying about his people.  He and his associates established a great wood-chopping project designed to keep the home furnaces and stoves going and the people warm in the winter.  They had no money with which to buy coal.  Men who had been affluent were among those who chopped wood.

I repeat, I hope we will never again see such a depression. But I am troubled by the huge consumer installment debt which hangs over the people of the nation, including our own people.  In March 1997 that debt totaled $1.2 trillion, which represented a 7 percent increase over the previous year.

In December of 1997, 55 to 60 million households in the United States carried credit card balances. These balances averaged more than $7,000 and cost $1,000 per year in interest and fees. Consumer debt as a percentage of disposable income rose from 16.3 percent in 1993 to 19.3 percent in 1996.

Everyone knows that every dollar borrowed carries with it the penalty of paying interest. When money cannot be repaid, then bankruptcy follows.  There were 1,350,118 bankruptcies in the United States last year.  This represented a 50 percent increase from 1992.  In the second quarter of this year, nearly 362,000 persons filed for bankruptcy, a record number for a three-month period.

We are beguiled by seductive advertising.  Television carries the enticing invitation to borrow up to 125 percent of the value of one's home.  But no mention is made of interest. 

President J. Reuben Clark Jr., in the priesthood meeting of the conference in 1938, said from this pulpit: "Once in debt, interest is your companion every minute of the day and night; you cannot shun it or slip away from it; you cannot dismiss it; it yields neither to entreaties, demands, or orders; and whenever you get in its way or cross its course or fail to meet its demands, it crushes you" (in Conference Report, Apr. 1938, 103)

I recognize that it may be necessary to borrow to get a home, of course.  But let us buy a home that we can afford and thus ease the payments which will constantly hang over our heads without mercy or respite for as long as 30 years.

No one knows when emergencies will strike.  I am somewhat familiar with the case of a man who was highly successful in his profession.  He lived in comfort.  He built a large home.  Then one day he was suddenly involved in a serious accident.  Instantly, without warning, he almost lost his life.  He was left a cripple.  Destroyed was his earning power.  He faced huge medical bills.  He had other payments to make.  He was helpless before his creditors.  One moment he was rich, the next he was broke.

Since the beginnings of the Church, the Lord has spoken on this matter of debt.  To Martin Harris through revelation, He said: "Pay the debt thou hast contracted with the printer.  Release thyself from bondage" (D&C 19:35).

President Heber J. Grant spoke repeatedly on this matter from this pulpit.   He said: "If there is any one thing that will bring peace and contentment into the human heart, and into the family, it is to live within our means.  And if there is any one thing that is grinding and discouraging and disheartening, it is to have debts and obligations that one cannot meet" (Gospel Standards, comp. G. Homer Durham [1941], 111).

We are carrying a message of self-reliance throughout the Church.  Self-reliance cannot obtain when there is serious debt hanging over a household.  One has neither independence nor freedom from bondage when he is obligated to others.

In managing the affairs of the Church, we have tried to set an example.  We have, as a matter of policy, stringently followed the practice of setting aside each year a percentage of the income of the Church against a possible day of need.

I am grateful to be able to say that the Church in all its operations, in all its undertakings, in all of its departments, is able to function without borrowed money.  If we cannot get along, we will curtail our programs.  We will shrink expenditures to fit the income.  We will not borrow.  One of the happiest days in the life of President Joseph F. Smith was the day the Church paid off its long-standing indebtedness.

What a wonderful feeling it is to be free of debt, to have a little money against a day of emergency put away where it can be retrieved when necessary.

President Faust would not tell you this himself.  Perhaps I can tell it, and he can take it out on me afterward.  He had a mortgage on his home drawing 4 percent interest.  Many people would have told him he was foolish to pay off that mortgage when it carried so low a rate of interest.  But the first opportunity he had to acquire some means, he and his wife determined they would pay off their mortgage.  He has been free of debt since that day.  That's why he wears a smile on his face, and that's why he whistles while he works.

I urge you, brethren, to look to the condition of your finances.  I urge you to be modest in your expenditures; discipline yourselves in your purchases to avoid debt to the extent possible. Pay off debt as quickly as you can, and free yourselves from bondage.

This is a part of the temporal gospel in which we believe.  May the Lord bless you, my beloved brethren, to set your houses in order.  If you have paid your debts, if you have a reserve, even though it be small, then should storms howl about your head, you will have shelter for your wives and children and peace in your hearts.  That's all I have to say about it, but I wish to say it with all the emphasis of which I am capable.

I leave with you my testimony of the divinity of this work and my love for each of you, in the name of the Redeemer, the Lord Jesus Christ, amen."